Wright’s sermon skirts mention of Obama controversy

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Video: Obama pastor, mentor speaks to crowded church Norfolk.
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The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., left, shakes hands as he exits Bank Street Memorial Baptist Church in Norfolk. (Gary C. Knapp | The Associated Press)



NORFOLK

For Khadija Vaughan, hearing the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. guest preach Sunday at Bank Street Memorial Baptist Church ended any debate about Sen. Barack Obama's spiritual mentor.

"He tells the truth, nothing but the truth, and he's not afraid to tell the truth," said Vaughan, a senior citizen counselor who lives in Norfolk.

Hundreds packed the 650-seat sanctuary where Wright declared, "T here's no such thing as a trouble-free life."

"Sooner or later - and usually sooner - you're going to run into trouble," Wright said. "In the midst of trouble, remember you are not alone; the Lord is right there with you."

Unaddressed in his sermon was the recent furor over his fiery pulpit rhetoric and ties to Obama, the Democratic presidential candidate.

But Wright's new notoriety undoubtedly swelled Sunday's audience: One-half of the crowd rose when visitors were introduced during the worship service.

"I have never seen it this full before, so I'm going to take full advantage," said the Rev. William K. Dixon, Bank Street's interim minister. "I might not see this again for a while."

Wright led Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago from 1972 until this year and forged close ties to Obama, a Trinity member.

Wright did not mention Obama or discuss the controversy. He did not give interviews. Reporters were allowed into the service, but audio and video recordings were prohibited.

Wright's critics have said video clips of his sermons that condemn U.S. policies showed him to be an angry racial separatist. His supporters said sound bites misrepresented his theology and preaching.

Wright visited Bank Street in memory of his late uncle's long-term pastorate at the church. He said other family and friends also attended Bank Street.

In a news release, Wright said that he "spent many summers attending Bank Street Baptist Church every Sunday."

By turns scholarly and jocular, mellow and crashingly loud, Wright preached from the biblical account of Jesus and his disciples on the stormy Sea of Galilee.

While Wright didn't cite recent events, it was nonetheless hard not to sense them as an undercurrent to his words.

"Some trouble in our lives comes up out of nowhere!" Wright said as his crowd laughed in agreement.

"There's no such thing as a trouble-free relationship," he added, contrasting Jesus' calm with the disciples' frantic fear of sinking.

He also said trouble is not everlasting.

"The Lord will not calm the storm for his children, but the Lord will calm his children in the storm," Wright said.

Wright's most inflammatory comments in past sermons were repudiated by Obama, who refused to sever their relationship.

Bank Street also refused to cancel Wright's visit. "When I stood at the pulpit and announced we were standing strong, the church affirmed your coming," Dixon said after Wright's sermon.

"Somebody has to take a stand... in the midst of trouble. God is with us," Dixon said.

Gary Walker, a heating and air conditioning contractor, called Wright "wonderful" after the service ended.

Walker blamed the recent headlines around Wright on media striving to "just being able to sell papers, to exploit other people for self-gain."

Bill Faulkner, a grocery store clerk from Virginia Beach, said some of the video clips shocked him.

"But I realized there was more to it than that, and that's why I came today," he said. "Not that he talked about the controversy that much, but his sermon definitely did put it all in a context."

Vaughan agreed. "I can't believe the things they wrote about him," she said of Wright's critics. "They need to come to one of his sermons and just see the truth.

"Sometimes, you need to come out to hear for yourself."

Steven G. Vegh, (757) 446-2417, steven.vegh@pilotonline.com



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Re: Mclovin

Pray tell you or none of your loved ones, ever has a minor stroke or a diabetic episode while driving. Some, including some officers, could be led to believe, by your slurring of words, your clumsy gait, the acetone like odor, (easily confused with some rot- gut liquors), that you or they are drunk or doped up. As you try to explain, as you realize you have lost control over many of your functions, you will hope that none of your movements are misconstrued. It's a simple fact that different groups often see the same things differently. Why do you think lawyers try do stack juries?

Same Event, differing veiws.

I did see the entire Rodney King tape, many times. As one trained by the military & my law enforcement entity, to be especially observant, I know what I saw. Also, how many Hyundais in the early '90's were capable of speeds of over 110mph? Your response helps make my point. People view the same events in totally different ways. A few years after the King incident, a young, upper middle class, college educated Black male, was shot over 50 times by 2 police officers, while sitting in the back of a patrol car, with his hands cuffed behind his back. He was wearing only a swimsuit. They got away with it. This occurred in Maryland. The young man's father was a judge at the time of this incident. Rodney King was no angel. That doesn't excuse the brutal beating by those officers. Why do you think the officers' attorneys got a change of venue to an overwhelmingly White county? We, for survival, have always been able to see how you see things. Too often, you don't, nor do you care to, see ours.

Interesting

Traitor? So is he not allowed to be black anymore? Are you kicking him out now? Does the green of money rub the pigment out of his skin changing his views as a black man?

I wonder what people would be saying if a white person began tearing down this successful black man? Especially if he were touting Obama's positives instead of pointing out some obvious facts.

Bob Johnson is a traitor

If you know anything about Bob Johnson, you would know that he is a traitor. He is unbelievably rich and cares solely about protecting his assets, like a true Republican. If you haven't achieved his financial success, then he wants nothing to do with you, black or white. He is a man with great influence and founded one of the few stations devoted to entertainment for African Americans when other stations neglected blacks, but he let it become filled with filth. If he has anything to say, I urge you not to listen.

sorry Ira

I'm too bitter to go on with life....

So far so good.... avoiding the issues

I still remember the now very dated Republican smear that Obama was a radical muslim, madrassa-educated manchurian candidate who would have us all praying to Mecca if he had his way. That was well before he was labelled the "not black enough" candidate. Of course that was contradicted by the "angry Christian blackman hates whites Rev Wright supporting reparations demanding" label. Now he's the Maxist/Communist Merca-hating candidate. How are people to get on board the smear-talk express with all this smear-de-jour flipfloppery taking place. We need to pick either the Radical Muslim, Crazy Christian, Commi/Marxist, Not Black Enough, or Very Black Angry Blackman smear and stick with it.

"billionaire businessman Bob

"billionaire businessman Bob Johnson said Monday that Sen. Barack Obama would not be his party's leading candidate if he were white"

Bob Johnson is the founder of BET. He went on to defend Geraldine Ferraro. She was mentioned in Obama's speech that explained his views on race and his relationship with this pastor. Ferraro was painted as a racist for her comments about Obama. Her comments are basically the same as Bob Jouhnson.

It is really a sobering article. I appreciate his candid observations. I suggest those who are interested read it at:

http://www.charlotte.com/559/story/581394.html

To Twomiler

Apparantly you never saw the whole Rodney King tape - understandable given the fact that the liberal media never showed it. Had you seen the whole tape, you would probably change your mind. Rodney King was a doped-up, out of control, street corner punk who got exactly what he deserved.

Apparently Mrs Clinton

Isn't the only one who has "misspoken"-----"I may have made a mistake last week in the words that I chose" Obama...(AP)..today... Keywords Obama Pennsylvania
Good news! For the GOP..They, the divided (D)candidates are driving voters to the (R)'s..Come on over the rest of you (D)'s...Jump on the bandwagon...Then you can say you voted for the winner..Didn't you learn when you had to scrape the Kerry sticker off of your back bumper? ...public service message from Contractorva(R)

Seeing & hearing differently

People of different groups can see & hear the exact same things, & arrive at completely opposing views as to what was said or done. I saw the Rodney King tapes; I saw a group of out of control police, violently attempting to cause permanent bodily damage. Some people of another group saw this man, prone in the street, being kicked, beaten with batons, over & over, as the one harming the police. When I saw Susan Smith's crocodile tears, as she claimed Blacks had taken her children, I said "Here we go again." Other people felt whatever bias they held toward Blacks vindicated. When I heard Charles Stuart say Blacks had shot his wife during a carjacking, & the police reaction of rounding up hundreds of young Black males, I said "Here we go again." When I heard the federal building in Okla. City had been bombed, & initial reports of Muslim suspects, I said it again. When it was proved an "All American" White man had done it, & the police didn't stop every young White man, while investigating, I once again said, "Here we go again."

Let the Bodies Hit the Floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lvU-DislkI

Jeremiah 7:28-34

Did not Rev. Wright's words, from a sermon delivered years ago and quoted out of context by political propagandists, reflect the message cited in the subject line? Did not the religious leaders of Jeremiah's day accuse him of blasphemy and political leaders charge him with treason and throw him in prison? [Jer. 38] Did not Judah's enemy, Nebuchadnezzar Emperor of Babylon, upon learning of Jeremiah's condemnation of his religion and country believe him to be a collaborator and ally? [Jer 39:11-14] Be not too quick to pass judgement.

In the end...

In the end no matter who is voted President of the once mighty USA, they will fail. Getting congress and the President to agree on something is not going to happen. One year if not sooner into the term of the next President the people will be ready to impeach him/her. Not Obama, Clinton, or McCain can save this sinking ship. So what this pastor says is of no importance. Start spending your energy on something important like putting money away for retirement since social security will be bankrupt in 2015 and our govt will be taking 50% of our pay checks to pay for their mistakes.

Jeremiah A. Wright Jr

Send him back to obamaland....him and Hussein Obama fit there.

I'm no judging him

But we did see and hear this angry black man at the pulpit with his GD this and GD that. Wright in my opinion is a racist seperatist, but before you call me a racist my best friend is an Africal American Baptist minister and over the past 20 plus years I have been to his church any number of time. The sermons are fiery, but with points well taken and inspirational. Wright's inspiration is negative. I'm sure Wright knows how to tone down his sermons to satify critics, but that doesn't demenish his hatefilled sermon.

Continuation..

...and realize that we're all fighting the same fight, just from different corners. We all want to experience the joys of financial freedom, rewards from hard work, getting a good education, etc. Some of us have to fight harder than others to acheive the same end result. But instead of fighting each others (like boxers from different corners do), we need to fight together.

You think terrorist hate me less as an American because I'm a black American versus a white American? Nah, they pretty much hate us both equally. I just lost a close friend in Iraq last week. I doubt whoever planted the IED that killed him cared what his race was (he was black by the way); just the fact that he was an American in an uniform.

It's time to wake up America!!

This is too predictable

I wish someone was taking wagers on how many ignorant comments would be posted in response to this article. I'd be sitting pretty right now. Are we just simple and narrow-minded? So quick to past someone off as a racist over some video clips that were taken COMPLETELY out of context. For proof, just do a little Googling or Youtubing to watch the whole sermon.

Plus even from the clips seen on every news outlet of Reverend Wright, he didn't say anything that someone say Rev. Pat Robertson hasn't said before. But because America is majority white, and because Rev. Wright is black, he's accused of being a racist. God forbid let someone outside of the majority race say something against America. They get accused of being unpatriotic (see Michelle Obama comments about being proud of America for the first time in her life).

The bottom line is, not every American experience is the same. My experiences (as a black man and as an American soldier) are different from my battle buddy in basic training who was a white man from upstate New York. We got along perfectly because we weren't close minded individuals. I just wish more of America can except each others cultural differences and ju

CH....I would have been there

I fully intended on going to hear the good Rev Wright but for some reason, the church limited attendance to only members or their invited guests. Why the closed door policy? If its all about truth, then why not anyone attend?

LC the difference is that

LC the difference is that one group is a fringe little cult set in the middle of no where. The other is mainstream. Light bulb on now?

I've head enough CH

I think I've heard and seen enough from this preacher Wright. IMO it seems business as usual, just another non-white-shock-preacher on a tour for self-glorification while hiding behind the convenient cloak of religion... exactly what the sheep like to hear.

Racism works both ways.

Racism works both ways. Rationalizations and Justifications are little lies we tell ourselves to explain our behavior.

I wonder

I wonder how many people still judging this man were actually in attendance on Sunday. I hope no one here is judging him without having actually taken the time to listen to him or one of his speeches in its entirety. Otherwise you're no better than the people you claim are judging you.

Your headline is almost correct

"Obama pastor, mentor and white hating racist..."

For those who fear the perceived problems in the black community

"Children removed from a polygamous sect's ranch in West Texas"
"Some 416 children were rounded up and placed in temporary custody 11 days ago after a domestic violence hot line recorded a complaint from a 16-year-old girl. She said she was physically and sexually abused by her 50-year-old husband."
If you think the children in black community are the only ones in need of help! You are sadly mistaken. You must read the entire newspaper, not just choice articles about "Blacks". Respond to this! This is from you own back yard!

robertc... was that a joke?

I can't fathom how you can say I was bringing race into this conversation.

I count the word "black" being used five times before I used it, and even then only in response to other peoples' posts. Laura, in the first post of this story, mentions the black community.

How nice

How nice to get a pep talk from an America-hating bigot.

We need a president that doesn't go to church.

We need a president that is logical. Sky wizards are for old times, we should have moved on by now. I know, I know... you just have to SAY you believe in it to get all the people to vote for you.... And then the new president can outlow children in church! No children in church until they are 18.

thanks...

admac for inducing race into it....what's that got to do with anything..

Sounds more like

the reverend was saying when you're in trouble, call on the Lord for help and guidance. Sounds like he was reminding the churchgoers to remember their faith and God's word. He may have been referring to his own ordeal. Who knows? It's an incomplete article, noticing that he didn't allow for interviews. Of course it's not known. Ambiguous statements often create the most responses from this community (HR that is). Everyone has their own interpretations and ways to twist words to serve one's own purpose...

How much did this cost?

How much did it cost to have the Rev. come all the way to Norfolk to tell everyone something negative? That money would have been better spent on poviding encouragment to those children who need attention by adults to keep them off the streets and out of the trouble the Rev. speaks of. Hope someone bought him a bus ticket back to Miss. so we don't have to listen to more of his negative attitude.


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